Nvidia says Chinese military dependence on American tech would be 'nonsensical,' following US govt agency's claims it assisted Deepseek with training AI models — says Admin's critics 'are unintentionally promoting the interests of foreign competitors'

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AI giant and GPU maker Nvidia has issued a strong response following claims that it provided technical assistance to DeepSeek to improve its training efficiency. The company said it would be "nonsensical" for China's military to depend on American technology, following a Reuters report on a letter sent to U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick.

In a statement of response provided to 3DTested, Nvidia said, "China has more than enough domestic chips for all of its military applications, with millions to spare. Just like it would be nonsensical for the American military to use Chinese technology, it makes no sense for the Chinese military to depend on American technology."

It makes no sense for the Chinese military to depend on American technology

Nvidia spokesman

The company's statement doesn't directly address the specific allegations made by Moolenaar of technical assistance. It also does not address the claims in the letter, which specifically state that DeepSeek-V3 was training using Nvidia H800 chips, which is further outlined in DeepSeek's V-3 Technical Report.

The original report, citing a breakthrough in efficiency gains training DeepSeek-V3, claims that Representative John Moolenaar, chair of the House Select Committee on China, wrote a letter to Lutnick claiming that "documents obtained by the committee from Nvidia showed the achievement came after extensive technical assistance from Nvidia."

Specifically, the letter purportedly states that "According to NVIDIA records, NVIDIA technology development personnel helped DeepSeek achieve major training efficiency gains through an 'optimized co-design of algorithms, frameworks, and hardware." It further claims that an internal report boasted of a significant improvement in GPU hours required for full training of DeepSeek-V3, specifically using just 2.788M H800 GPU hours.

The report claims that models honed with the help of Nvidia were "later used by the Chinese military." According to Reuters, the documents pertain to activities from 2024, and Moolenaar admitted that at the time the alleged assistance was provided, there was no public indication that China's military was using DeepSeek's technology. "Nvidia treated DeepSeek accordingly - as a legitimate commercial partner deserving of standard technical support," is said to have written.

Nvidia has previously spoken against export controls against its chips, arguing that China could even "win the AI race" as a result of such measures and the country's favorable energy infrastructure.

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  • MoxNix
    Politics. Pretty sad state of affairs at Tom's these days. Almost nothing here now other than political propoganda and product schilling.
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  • timsSOFTWARE
    I am happy that someone has taken up the mantle of open-weight AI development, as western AI companies have seemed to be ready to abandon it.

    But I also don't believe it's an altruistic move by China - they know that their domestic industry will continue to have state funding no matter what - so they are not constrained by short-term profit motives - whereas US companies speed can potentially be hampered by lack of revenue/investment if end users opt for other solutions. So - for now - they continue to make their offerings widely available, hoping that it will affect the pace of the overall race. But if they were to "win" and/or it were deemed no longer to their advantage, that would dry up quickly.
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  • blppt
    MoxNix said:
    Politics. Pretty sad state of affairs at Tom's these days. Almost nothing here now other than political propoganda and product schilling.
    Politics has unfortunately saturated just about every aspect of life anymore. You can't avoid it. Can't really blame them.
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  • American2021
    blppt said:
    Politics has unfortunately saturated just about every aspect of life anymore. You can't avoid it. Can't really blame them.
    True. Best to take the world as it is rather than pretend it is what we want it to be as reality can be a cruel teacher to those who live in denial.
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  • alan.campbell99
    I must be missing something, I recall Nvidia saying things like they need to have China reliant on Nvidia, I mean, US tech to maintain US advantage and China's dependency on it. Rather than them develop their own hardware/software such that it's competitive. I dunno, it just looks like their position flips around to me.
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  • Notton
    There is a famous quote for that.
    "Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you. "
    -Pericles

    This ramp up in political rhetoric touching every aspect of our lives is eerily similar to the lead up to WW1.
    So, by all accounts, I doubt it'll go away anytime soon, and you'll just have to live with it for the time being.

    And yes, Nvidia is correct in pointing out the contradiction. "Look at that scary strong dude over there, but he would be nothing without our help." Sort of deal
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